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October 06, 2004


I really think that my best course of action, should Bush be re-elected, is to leave the country. That’s what they always say--love it or leave it! And I still love America and would continue to love America if Bush got a 2nd term, but how could I stay and be true to my convictions? I don’t even know where I would go or how or what or when, but it would kill me to live here and raise my son with more of Bush’s policies destroying everything I hold important.

Sure, in four years he’d be gone, but look at the damage he managed to do with the his first four. Imagine him getting to appoint a Supreme Court Justice? He’d probably have oil drills in every backyard in America as well.

Ryland is 7 weeks tomorrow. 7 weeks feels like both a very long time and not long at all. My friend just finished potty-training her son and I think about when I will be doing that and it seems so far off, but I know it will happen in the blink of an eye. It was rough getting old all on my own. Now I have Ryland to remind me of how quick time moves and watching him grow up will surely be the death of me.

Lucky for me Ryland is a genius and a superstar and a god.

And have you all watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind yet? Because you really need to see this film.

Posted by christa at October 6, 2004 05:21 PM


In the interests of honest reporting I feel compelled to tell all readers of Loafe that DW is not, in fact, potty trained. We had major backslide yesterday morning involving poop and the floor and he has since been in diapers by request. It's fine by me, I mean I do have better things to do than pick poop up off the carpet with flushable wipes while the person who did the pooping HELPS and I try to clean up the mess while yelling something like "just put it in the toilet, PUT IT IN THE TOILET RIGHT NOW!!!!"

Posted by: Marianne at October 6, 2004 06:33 PM

You managed to live through 8 years of the Clinton administration at the helm and you are going to leave this country after tax-cuttin, ever vigilant, and unwavering Bush gets re-elected? I love you crazy liberals. You make me smile.

Posted by: Amanda at October 6, 2004 07:59 PM

Four more years!

Posted by: gina at October 6, 2004 09:12 PM

W is for women.

Ok, even though I do like George, this makes me laugh.

Posted by: gina at October 6, 2004 09:13 PM

Man oh man, I miss Clinton. Yes, i've decided that if George Wubbya Bush gets re-elected, my ass is going to Canada. Him and Cheney and Rumsfield are all spawns of satan!!! Ugh! what the hell is wrong with this country that they can be doing as well as they are in the polls, despite everything that's come to light and the downward spiral they've taken this country?! Unfuckingbelievable! dear God, help us if we get stuck with 4 more years. I'm just thankful I atleast live in a liberal city and not in Bush loving country, where i'd probably have to shoot myself. GO JOHN KERRY!!!!!! WOO HOO!!!

Posted by: celly belly at October 7, 2004 12:06 AM

Oh and I love the "tax cutting" comment, yeah if you're rich. Oy vey! I cant really blame Bush though, he's just a dumbass, puppet. Cheney and Rumsfeld both have their hands up his ass as puppet master.

Posted by: celly belly at October 7, 2004 12:08 AM

10-4 CB!!! Illinois will deliver 21 electoral votes to Kerry come 11-2!!

Posted by: DG at October 7, 2004 06:33 AM

What confuses me about liberals, what absolutely confounds me about you all is why you all cannot grasp the fundamental idea of proportions. I am in the absolute lowest tax bracket-- I'm a Ramen Noodle consuming, coupon cuttin, self- haircutin' ---ass poor college student, working full time...and I still managed to see a substantial return last year due to Bushes tax cuts. Granted, logic tell me that I am only going to get back a percentage of what I paid out, but they key here is it is in direct proportion to what I made. 15% back on 10,000 is a lot less in comparison to 15% on someone clearing 100,000. Rocket Science, No. Four More Years, Yes. Maybe a place for disgruntled liberals in in order. A special place where you can all go and set up your "Utopia". I have a place in mind, but I am going to keep it myself, but I hear it’s really hot down there.

Posted by: Amanda at October 7, 2004 07:49 AM

Liberal-Conservative its all irrelevant and merely a sideshow for whats really going on...
The politics of power and the distribution of wealth.
Bush is not a tax and spend liberal of course,
he is a tax the middle class, reduce taxes on those who have more money than they could spend in 15 life times and spend it all ($200 Bill)in a frikkin piece of shit country we should get out of now, conservative.
I was unaware that people that made at the bottom of the income spectrum got anything. The cutoff for tax relief was around $30,000.00 a year. People that made that much or less got nothing. Shouldering in economic terms and the Marginal Propensity to save and spend terms the burden of the illegal war in a autonomous and soveriegn nation.

Posted by: DG at October 7, 2004 08:18 AM

Above and beyond anything else, this is the most corupt administration in history. They have straight out LIED to the American public and sadly enough, some Americans dont seem to give a damn about being lied too by their government, or rather, refuse to accept the fact that they were. Farhenheit 9/11 is all propoganda, they'll say, cause that's easier then admitting we were played for suckers. It truly amazes me that anyone could actually be in favor of 4 more years of this bullshit! if there's a God in heaven, Kerry will get elected come Nov 2nd! unless of course, Bush and Cheney somehow cheat their way into the White House again, like they did 4 years ago. Everyone has a right to their opionon, i'm merely stating mine and believe it to be the right one. Oh and I love how "liberal" is thrown around like it's something BAD??? i'm proud to call myself a liberal! and that I live in as liberal a city as Seattle.

Posted by: celly belly at October 7, 2004 11:25 AM

Let me end all this political babbling with two words: Reality Television.

Posted by: Monkeyspit at October 7, 2004 11:31 AM

I think our government lies to us regardless of who's in office. And, for me personally, things have not been so bad economcially. I got a great interest rate on my mortgage, and I've even managed to get a job making more money than I ever have. But would that have been different if a Democrat was in office? Probably not. It doesn't matter. I think what both candidates say is bull shit. I just happen to like the bull shit of one candidate more than the other. Oh, and I'm proud to call myself a conservative! The cool thing is that I can respect and be friends with the craziest liberal of them all, Christa!

Posted by: gina at October 7, 2004 04:35 PM

I am in the absolute lowest tax bracket

Sigh... like a gay conservative or a black conservative, there's just something depressing about a poor conservative. Don't you people get it? The Republicans don't give a DAMN about you or your concerns. Their entire agenda is set up to improve things for people at a financial position much higher than your current one...

Posted by: Jonathan at October 8, 2004 11:04 AM

For clarity's sake, let me just add that I'm quoting Amanda on the first line of my post above.

Posted by: Jonathan at October 8, 2004 11:04 AM

Jonathon, you see the world around you with crystal clarity.

Posted by: DG at October 8, 2004 11:36 AM

I can't believe none of you people are showing the slightest concern about my potty training if POLITICS were so important!

Posted by: Marianne at October 8, 2004 01:22 PM

Sherry, a girl that until recently worked here, just visited with a newborn nephew.
It was pretty and it smelled I want a baby!!!
Yes potty training is of vital national importance.
Christa and all of you baby toting girls out there are to be truly envied.
Its for children like yours that I am compelled to vote for Kerry this fall.

Posted by: DG at October 8, 2004 01:37 PM

Thank God for people like you, Amanda. :)

I have yet to understand why being rich, or even VERY rich, is such an awful thing in liberal's eyes. You make money in the marketplace or through inheritence. There's no logical reason - besides jealousy - to believe that the rich somehow have a responsibility to support the poor. This country is all about making one's own way, and punishing the wealthy with increasingly higher taxes (when they're ALREADY paying such a hugely disproportionate amount) is not sound fiscal policy.

After all, there's a high likelihood that the rich are paying your paychecks. Show a little respect.

Posted by: brasten at October 8, 2004 05:26 PM

Brasten, I really hope the shoe isnt on the other foot someday, cause you will learn to eat your words. Rich and arrogant, never fails.

Posted by: celly belly at October 9, 2004 02:30 AM

celly belly,
are you assuming I'm rich? just because I strongly disagree with taking more and more money out of people that worked hard to earn it and giving it to whiners and complainers at the opposite end of the scale, I'm rich?

I've been poor, celly belly. I've only recently hit the "middle class" status, which is mostly fake because I'm still paying off massive debt.

And never have I been arrogant enough to believe that the government and upper-class Americans owe me things I haven't earned myself. The poor and middle-class believing that they somehow deserve the rich's well-deserved money more than the rich do? THAT'S arrogant.

Posted by: brasten at October 9, 2004 11:02 AM

Oh okay not arrogant than, SELFISH!!! I work with low income people and with the elderly and I see that they cant afford the medicine they need and people who are disabled and forced to live off hardly nothing. I work with WAMI and there are people who's medicines come to hundreds, sometimes even a thousand dollars a month, because this government refuses to allow neogotiating prices with the pharmacutical companies, cause they have em in their backpocket. I work with the elderly and know a woman who cant afford the insulin she needs and because her social security is more than $588.00 a month, she doesnt qualify for Medicaid. Since this new administration took office they have lowered the eligibility to $588.00 a month?! that's absolutely ridiculous! I see the people who have to go to the Food Banks here, where they run out and the vegetables and fruits are rotting. Not all poor people are lazy, whiners, complainers and looking for a hand out. Not everybody got the same start and because of circumstances in life, they now find themselves living under the poverty line and struggling to get by. I live in the state with the 2nd highest unemployment in the country. I have friends who have been out of work 1-2 years. It makes me sick to think there are people out there who think like you do. Maybe you should get right in the thick of it and see it firsthand, like I do. I volunteer at these places, cause I care about helping less fortunate people and trying to make the world a better place. Your thinking is backwards and just plain sad. Also, this is the administration who doesnt believe in a woman's right to choose, but then once she has the kid, where are the social services to provide for them??? and if you care at all about the environment, how could you possibly want someone like Bush in office? there are things outside of just what suits you, that you need to look at here. Get out of your own little bubble and see what's really going on! SHEESH!

Posted by: celly belly at October 9, 2004 04:21 PM

I encourage you all to get involved with your state Poverty Action Network, volunteer at a homeless shelter or food bank or nursing home and see how such a large majority of Americans are now living. I volunteer at my local food bank, I see the people who require our services and free meals and they arent all homeless, drunks! there are families, there are mom's & dad's who got laid off from Boeing & Microsoft and who's unemployment ran out and they are expected to live off the state welfare or $339.00, even with food stamps, how do you do that? so to say, people are just lazy and dont want to work, is such an easy cop out! why would anyone choose to live off three hundred bucks a month? does that sound like fun to you? I see them doing worker re-training and busting their asses to find work, but the unemployment is at a disgusting high. These are good, decent, hardworking people. Not all of em, but alot of em are. I even knew a couple who both worked for Boeing, lost their jobs and now live out of their car. This is the face of America today. Sure, more jobs are being created, but who can live off the wages? and when they keep getting sent overseas for cheaper labour, where does that leave our people? we should be ashamed, truly ashamed. I love America and I love being an American, but I dont love this administration or president and I dont think saying so makes me unpatriotic. I believe we can do better, but we can only begin to do so if Kerry and Edwards get elected come Nov 2nd. Dear God! let that be the case, cause I cant imagine how much further down the toilet Bush and Cheney will take this fine country of ours with 4 more years at their disposal.

Posted by: celly belly at October 9, 2004 04:38 PM

celly belly!

Please, more assumptions? Common! Last year, I donated about $5,000 to various charities... a lot? Not in the global scheme of things, no. But a lot for ME. I also donate a lot of time to passing out food and hanging out with low income and/or homeless folks in my city (Seattle).

I understand that the liberal story sounds so much more compassionate... sure, it's sad that there are people who have lost their jobs, have no unemployment... living off of state welfare... etc... BUT, you can NOT take money from the top and redistribute it to non-productive citizens at the bottom. While I realize that sounds selfish, my purpose for earlier pointing out my money donations was to show that I'm not fundamentally a selfish guy. If you have a ton of money and want to donate it to the poor, please do! I try to as much as possible! But the government taking away massive amounts of money from the top end to give to unproductive members at the bottom does more harm than good.

I'm sorry that you must believe me to be a rich, selfish, arrogant jerk in order to dismiss my opinions. I believe you are a thoughtful, caring person with sincere beliefs on now to help people that cannot help themselves in this time... and I admire how passionate you are in your beliefs. I do, however, believe you are wrong.

Posted by: brasten at October 10, 2004 02:01 PM

Still with the politics! I am dealing with poop here, people! POOP! ON THE FLOOR!

Posted by: Marianne at October 10, 2004 02:22 PM

Brasten for President 2008! Can I be your campaign manager?

Posted by: Amanda at October 10, 2004 02:23 PM

Oh dear, Amanda! I think I'll leave the presidency to others better suited to the job than I. =)

However, should I ever change my mind, you get first dibs for the VP spot. ;)

Posted by: brasten at October 10, 2004 03:27 PM

Hey Marianne, I bet if Bush weren't president right now, David would be potty trained and there would be no poop on the floor.

Posted by: christa at October 11, 2004 12:13 AM

Learn to love the color red or apply for a job in a stinkin cannery up in BC and hope Canada lets you in well before the one-year wait period. That is what it has come down to for many Blues since the NE Establishment Liberal Democrats have self-destructed once again and the Reds have amassed even more power in Washington. Sure, Kerry has his Senate seat for life in Mass. Edwards has his law practice and bank account. And what hope is there for me? Already the Blues are already heading down the wrong road again, talking about Hiliary in 08. This kind of thinking means one of two things for us Blues: either we learn to love the Reds, or we pack up our Volvos and head on up north to Vancouver, or we sell our possessions and leave for Old Europe.

Posted by: Bill at November 4, 2004 03:04 AM


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