the baby jesuses are crying: how music snobbery is making my daily life practically unlivable.

I just heard a song from sky blue sky on a VW commercial. Wha????

Wilco naturally defended their choice to shill for a car company, and given my great love for all things Wilco and all things Tweedy (except for when he gets fucked up on pills and backs out of coachella the one stinking time I can actually go), I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt. I really did. What they said even makes a bit of sense. Doesn’t it?

But I can’t hide it, my annoyance is there, my disappointment is real. I wouldn’t call them sellouts (for a true example of sellout, listen to liz phair’s exile in guyville, and then pick up that awful self-titled CD of hers that came out a few years ago…you will cry, guaranteed), but it’s certainly left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Wilco’s only saving grace here is the music…it hasn’t changed over the years to appeal to a broader audience. I know this because I’m involved with them intimately, I’ve taken refuge in them, they are part of me. So this car commercial deal is not the worst thing in the world, because they aren’t altering their work just to be IN the commercials. And really, they can do whatever they want with their music and make money off of it however they can. I don’t begrudge them that.

But it’s reasons like THIS that keep me from being totally okay with it.

Those birds don’t know the first thing about the beauty and joy contained in wilco’s music and they never ever will. She went to myspace to learn about Wilco. myspace. MYSPACE. And now, here they are sitting next to me, in my actual space, my sacred special place, simply because they watched a freaking TV commercial. Do they think that grants them the same rights and benefits, that they’ve earned the same from Wilco as me?

oh hell no. hell hell hell no.

Wilco can drop their songs wherever they want and pretend like it’s all kosher, but I know better. I fully believe that all music is not for the masses. The masses dilute it, they sully it, they destroy it, with their blank minds and insatiable hunger. They don’t deserve to be part of it. I know I’m an elitist when it comes to music; I’m okay with that, it’s a curse and a blessing, but mostly a blessing. It’s true though: with great power comes great responsibilty. Maybe Wilco doesn’t understand that.

Giving movies and TV shows the right to play your music is worlds apart from giving car companies that same right. To me, you’re saying “my art is so valuable it can sell you anything” OR “my art is so invaluable it can sell you anything.” Either one degrades the purity. Whatever your reasons, it has consequences. And you may get to pick what company is using your music, but you don’t get to pick when that commercial is played, or what other commercials surround it. You want people watching Age of Love or fucking laguna beach thinking “hey wilco is cool!”???

so why, wilco, why? Is it just for the money? Is it because you guys really really love VWs? Or you think that Volkswagon is a great company that does great things for the world? Is it because you want every chump watching TV to hear your music? Really, that’s what you want? What’s the real reason? You don’t owe us any explanations, I suppose, it would just be nice.

On one of the message boards, a user posted a quote from Tom Waits on this very subject. Tom Waits gets it. He gets everything though, that is one cool dude.

“Songs carry emotional information and some transport us back to a poignant time, place or event in our lives. It’s no wonder a corporation would want to hitch a ride on the spell these songs cast and encourage you to buy soft drinks, underwear or automobiles while you’re in the trance. Artists who take money for ads poison and pervert their songs. It reduces them to the level of a jingle, a word that describes the sound of change in your pocket, which is what your songs become. Remember, when you sell your songs for commercials, you are selling your audience as well.”

So maybe that’s what really bothers me. I’ve put more of myself into their music than all of these people who are hearing them for the first time, not because they want to, but because of an advertisement. I’m invested, they are not, and it just doesn’t feel right. It’s not that I don’t want people to love Wilco’s music. But they should have to work for it, too. We are owed as much. Hearing them in these commercials makes me feel cheated. I don’t want taken from me what I’ve cultivated, with careful and deeply felt deliberations. I’ve made the effort for years and I’m rewarded for that by hearing their music while some stupid car drives around the screen.

I’ll be okay. I think. Like I said, worse things have happened.

right?

all that being said, there surely must be a few musicians I’ve “discovered” via a commercial; I can’t think of any offhand, but I know there must. Which makes me a jerk of the highest order–it’s okay for me, not for you.

But it’s wilco, my beloved wilco, and I feel so dirty now. don’t they?

21 thoughts on “the baby jesuses are crying: how music snobbery is making my daily life practically unlivable.

  1. Jonathan

    Confession: Pink Moon, by Nick Drake. Also from a VW commercial, about 10 years ago. I’m shamed, but at the same time, I’m glad I got to know the song/album.

    As for Wilco, if you really love them (and I believe you do – remember, it’s only due to your love of Wilco that you & I even know each other), you should be happy that 1) they’re making some money instead of considering breaking up after struggling on the border of success for so long, and 2) that more people are hearing their work, especially the kind of people who wouldn’t normally seek them out.

  2. DG

    I remember when you said it was OK to think Cold Play was cool….then a month later it was being played over the loud speakers at a baseball game…I felt so dirty….
    But I am OK, I am starting to fall for Evanescence. I like the imagery and that Amy Lee’s pipes….. Wo!!

  3. Marianne

    I don’t know, Christa. I love ya, but I sure don’t get this. If you love Wilco then why do you give a rat’s ass what anyone else does or says regarding them? Who cares if they are on a car commercial? They could be on a tampon commercial and it would still be music you enjoy listening to, right? And that guy you quoted sounds like a pompous ass…..”Artists who take money for ads poison and pervert their songs.” What a buncha bullshit. It is up to human beings to think independently. You can’t stop the herd mentality, but just because the herd is taking up something you like doesn’t mean you’ve suddenly started mooing along, it just means their taste has gotten (likely temporarily) a bit elevated.

  4. DG

    Marianne , when certain music becomes the soundtrack of your mind and soul…your life, if you will …
    Then hear that same music used to hawk wares in the common marketplace it makes you feel dirty.Just like Jesus felt dirty when he saw the money lenders in the temple.
    Thats why I always go for the odd and avantegarde or exclusive. Lessening the chance to hear it over the loud speakers at a baseball game.

  5. Marianne

    DG – I refrained from making fun of you for asking some sort of permission from Christa to have a certain opinion of Cold Play, but I guess it’s okay to go ahead and point it out now. How fucking lame are you? Is Christa your judge and jury when it comes to music? Oh wait, I guess she is your Jesus. Whatever.

    When some music or another has become the “soundtrack of your mind and soul”, does it never occur to you that it might also be the “soundtrack” of other minds and souls? Do you think that your mind and soul is somehow on a higher plane or better than theirs because you maybe happen to have heard that music first? That is just ridiculous. Certain music has been around for decades (The Beatles, The Beach Boys, The Eagles, Rolling Stones, just to name a few examples) and was the soundtrack of our parents and grandparents and yet it continues to also be part of the soundtrack for me and my kids. So, according to you, once something gets played to the huddled and disgusting masses it is no longer of value? The meaning that those songs had for my parents negates its meaning for me? You are engaging in the worst kind of snobbery, believing that you are part of some exclusive club while worshiping and emulating someone else and having no independent thoughts of your own and then shitting on anyone else’s idea of what might be good and right.

    I would also point out that Evanescence is hardly odd or exclusive. Have you asked Christa’s permission to think that band is acceptable young man??

  6. christa

    The following I originally wrote in a personal email to marianne, in response to her 1st comment…we both agreed it was good to post it for all to see, as this is a very interesting discussion:

    “I love it when someone wants to say something opposing to my viewpoint, they preface it with “I love ya but…” or “you’re nice but…” or whatever. I know you love me, it’s okay! I can handle it. And if I can’t, I shouldn’t have a web site, right?

    I think you’re right, though. I have a hard time making the distinction between the masses liking something I like and it not meaning that I am a part of that mentality. that’s such a big deal to me, and I don’t know why. It’s a real problem of mine. I get so frantic at the idea of being like everyone else that sometimes it gets in the way of just liking something because I like it.

    Although, I still agree with the Tom Waits quote…I don’t make music, but I do write, and I think of that as my own kind of art. If what I wrote became a part of some kind of advertising campaign, well I feel it would lessen my writing, it would degrade it. Poison it, like he said. For instance, I would NEVER ever in a million years put advertising on loafe, although I’ve been approached and asked about it, and people have suggested I go that route. I don’t care how much money it would make me; I know it would be absolutely unavoidable that I would alter my writing because of it. I mean, I do it that even now, because I personally know some of the people who read loafe. And those people are harmless and have no financial interests in my output.

    Once you open those corporate doors, you can’t close them again…they won’t let you. They will want to start dictating what you say and what you do, because you are representing them in some way. They will essentially own a part of you. It’s so hard to keep your integrity and dedication to your art when people who don’t care about you at all have their hands all over you. Companies care about money, because that’s how they survive, and every little spoke in their wheel serves only to make it go ’round. to tell yourself otherwise makes you a fool.

    Now, it’s a completely different situation if I were specifically writing FOR a commerical, you know what I mean? if I had my own personal writings and all that, my ART if you will, and then I wrote things separately for a commercial…that is more understandable, more agreeable. We all need to make money, and face it, I’m certainly never going to pay the bills with my “personal” writing. It’s taking things from their original form and then putting it into an advertisement that bothers me. It always has. And especially something like a car commercial…it’s not even for a good cause, at least in my eyes. Wilco isn’t promoting cleaner energy or better parenting or sexual awareness, equal rights, freedom, etc. By selling their music to VW, they are promoting a car. A stupid freaking car. maybe in some backwards argument one could argue they are promoting capitalism and democracy and our way of life, but really, that’s silliness. We all know there needs to be limits on consumerism. and there certainly doesn’t need to be any more freaking cars on the road.

    I doubt the people running that company care even the slightest about Wilco and their music and what it means. They need to make a profit. Using Wilco is their attempt to appeal to a certain demographic and that’s it. A car isn’t going to change people and isn’t going to change the world. Neither will one song. But things hardly ever just flow one way (aka wilco’s music flowing down into the car commercial), so I am just waiting to see what floats back Wilco’s way. well, besides money. Like, what sort of undue influence will VW or some other company be putting into Wilco’s art now? no matter how subtle or subconcious it may be. Now, instead of just listening to their music and appreciating it for what it is, I will be looking for corporate and commercial influence. that makes me feel cheated, as a longtime fan.

    Believe me, I’ve thought about this for a long time. I didn’t want it to bother me, I truly didn’t, and I tried not to care. I saw the commercial and my whole body tensed up. I said “let it go christa, it’s out of your control.” But I keep seeing it and I keep hearing it, and I cannot deny how much it bugs me.

    I DO want other people to like them (the right people anyway, I’ll be honest). I DO want people to see there is more out there than what’s on the radio. I want minds and moods changed for the better. And regardless of who becomes a fan of wilco now, no one can take away from me what I love about them and what listening to their music gives me. So yay for them, yay for more exposure.

    But that exposure comes with a price, and in this case, I don’t think it was worth it. Wilco is a far from struggling band, and each album has brought a bigger audience, and in the right way, via good reviews, word-of-mouth, great performances, sold-out tours, etc.

    I invested a lot of time and energy to this band, gave my trust to them, gone along for the ride. And now that ride has stopped suddenly so we can all look at some pretty cars. I feel slighted. Someone who hears one of their songs on a commercial and downloads that song is NOT on the same level of fan appreciation as me. I don’t care if they go buy every single thing Wilco has released. All fans are not equal and Wilco is telling me they are, effectively shitting on the years I’ve spent celebrating them.

    Music is practically a religion to me, so I take things very personally. Take something you hold near and dear, and imagine Ford using it to sell their cars. Wouldn’t that upset you? What if Ford decided they wanted to appeal to the goddess-worshipping audience, and featured one of your more favorite proponents of that movement in their commercials, touting one of their freaking SUVs or something. Would you say “AWESOME! This is so great. it’s going to bring more people to love and understand and accept paganism!”

    that is a lame comparison, I know, but it’s the best I could come up with right now. hopefully it illustrates my point.

    anyway, I know I shouldn’t care that Wilco is in these commercials, and I certainly don’t love their music any less. I just need to let it go. It is a constant struggle of mine. My annoyance will lessen and the world will continue to spin and that will be that.”

    p.s. I hate evanescence.

  7. Marianne

    I do see what you are saying, I really do. I think it must be hard for artists of all stripes to avoid commercialization of their art. But I wonder, is it not the point of being an artist to be able to make a living at it? I mean, don’t they all want to be able to make a living doing what they love to do? I guess that means there will always be someone else’s finger in the pie, right? Writers have editors and publishing houses and unless they are Stephen King or J.K. Rowling, they have to compromise, right? And musicians have record companies and such, right? So, I guess having the music in car commercials is just taking it one step too far? I could see that, I mean there must be a line somewhere between crass commercialization of your art and refusing to compromise your art at all and thus not being able to make a living at it. Although I would think that line would be a very individual thing. But not being an artist, I can’t say for sure.

    I can give you a better example of when this has happened to me and that would be one Naomi Wolf. She is a feminist writer and I deeply admired her. She wrote a book called “Misconceptions” about motherhood that made me seriously re-define everything I thought I knew on the subject. And you know what happened? Naomi Wolf found Jesus (and no, I don’t mean Christa, I mean the bearded Christian guy). She did an interview wherein she admitted to a newfound conversion to Christianity and sounded every bit the complete fundamentalist. This presented a huge problem for me for various reasons that are irrelevant to this discussion, but I will just say that I don’t generally read or listen to people of the Christian persuasion.

    My solution to the quandary was this: I no longer read Naomi Wolf. Whatever her merits as a writer, her conversion to Christianity has led me to conclude that we have had a parting of the ways. And I did NOT take this personally. Her spiritual journey is her own, just as mine is my own and she clearly does not make her spiritual decisions based on what her readers might think. This was not a personal attack on me or on anyone who enjoyed her previous writing, it was just a personal decision that she clearly had many reasons for making. So, whatever. I’m not a reader any longer.

    So, I just think that is the major problem here, which you admit yourself. You take this very personally and I think that is the problem. Wilco did not wake up one morning and decide that they wanted to ruin your experience of their music and do a VW commercial because that was the most expedient way of doing so….I am sure they had a number of reasons for doing it, all of which had zero to do with YOU. You aren’t entitled to pieces of them, any more than I or any other reader of this blog, is entitled to pieces of you just because you happen to write and I happen to enjoy your writing.

    But people do grow and change, it is just the way of the world, and it is possible that you and Wilco have simply grown apart. It happens in the best of relationships and you can only cut your losses and keep the happiest memories alive and not sully them by future compromises.

    Also, are you making a list of acceptable Wilco fans? Am I on that list? Because I really need to know if I am allowed to go and download the song that I now really love since I saw it on the commercial.

  8. Jonathan

    By selling their music to VW, they are promoting a car. A stupid freaking car. maybe in some backwards argument one could argue they are promoting capitalism and democracy and our way of life, but really, that’s silliness.

    Actually, Christa, by selling their music to VW, they are promoting Wilco. VW is the one promoting cars. Now, I know you don’t care for VW, but you LOVE Wilco, so when you look at it that way, shouldn’t you be glad every time someone ran the ad? It’s promoting your favorite band.

    Also: you can’t have it both ways – you seem to strike a very high minded, “advertising runs bi-directionally, and by selling VW, something will flow back into Wilco (other than money) and fundamentally alter who they are as musicians” but then you’re also saying a very childish thing, “I’m a true Wilco fan and I can’t stand the thought of these fly by nighters (even if they contain, as a group, people like my friend Marianne) glomming on to MY band! MINE!! I will hold my breath until Wilco acknowledges that I am more special than these other fans who only know them from their TV commercials.”

    I tend to disagree with both of your points – the former because I truly believe what Wilco is promoting is Wilco, not cars or diapers or beer, and the latter because it’s just a very poorly thought through argument.

    Now, maybe my opinion on cultural issues doesn’t carry as much weight with you since I admitted my disdain for The Road, but things could always be worse. I mean, I could claim that the music of Evanescance had become the soundtrack of my mind and soul.

  9. DG

    Gosh darn it Jonathan you twist everything around!!
    Marianne..you are 100% correct…
    And Christa you are the deity on and of this website!!!

  10. christa Post author

    What sort of everything-is-exactly-as-it-seems world are you living in Jonathan? Selling their music to VW IS promoting their cars. That’s the whole point! The lyrics may not saying, “we love Volkswagen, we love Volkswagen” but Wilco’s songs are being played in an advertisement for a specific company’s product.

    They even said, “some of us drive VWs”! How is that NOT promoting Volkswagen? If it was merely Wilco promoting Wilco, then why did they release a statement about it, defending their actions?

    It’s a very childish thing to think they are being noble in this endeavor. Yes, they may ALSO be promoting their own music, that may full well be their intention, but that’s not the only thing happening when you license your music for commercials. You sell your music to a company, you have to take responsibility for that…you can’t say, “oh, I’m just trying to get more airplay” and that is where the relationship ends. No way jose. Your song and that product are linked. You are saying, “I like this company, I like this product, I support it with my money and with my art.”

    Would Wilco sell their music to people making pedophiliac videos just to promote Wilco? Would Wilco sell their music to the KKK to play at rallies (or burnings or whatever it is the KKK does) to promote Wilco? Would Wilco allow a politician whose views they don’t support use their music in his/her campaign, in the interest of promoting Wilco? Where do you stop? When is it okay and when isn’t it?

    There is a very distinct and direct connection you make when you agree to let a corporation/person/entity use your material in their advertising. It’s irresponsible and just plain stupid to think otherwise.

    And like I said before, I really do not have a problem with new people liking Wilco. I don’t claim to be the biggest Wilco fan ever, or that I heard them first, or that I OWN them as a band. Or even that I’m going to hold my breath until they say I am more special, JR. Sheesh, a comment like that shows me how little the people who don’t know me really don’t know me, despite my appalling lack of reservedness. Either that or things are just too easily misinterpreted in a medium like this. I didn’t realize I was giving the impression of being a whiny kid, jumping up and down because mom and dad won’t give me attention.

    There are tons of morons who like the same shit I do, that’s how it goes. It’s my own fault, because I have such a low tolerance for people and a long long list of what I deem moronic. I accept that fact. It makes me miserable much of the time, but I ENJOY it. I thought maybe at first that was what got me so riled up, the idea of lame people all over the country thinking they were Wilco fans now. But that’s not it. Or at least, if that were the only reason I wouldn’t have written so endlessly about it.

    I’ve been with Wilco for some time now. I love the music dearly. I owe a great deal of my life’s pleasure to them. And I see nothing wrong with wanting recognition for that fact. Not for me specifically but for all of us who have supported the band all these years, buying their albums, going to their shows, buying products from their site, spreading the word to all our friends about how great this band is and why they should be listening. It is fans like us that got them to the point of where they are today. Of course there aren’t enough of us, but at least we’re here, doing what we can. I’ve always done right by them, so tell me what is wrong with wanting to be appreciated by them? I’ve always felt Wilco had a great relationship with their fans, playing smaller venues when possible, giving us opportunities to buy tickets early, etc. Little things like that. What I didn’t know was that the one way I would feel NOT appreciated was by hearing them in a commercial. I never even considered it.

    I want better reassurance from them that their deal with the devil won’t affect their primary business of making great music. Maybe Wilco feels the statement on the web site is enough, their obligation to the fans was satisfied with its release. I disagree. It was a weak justification at best, and that is why I feel slighted, as a fan. They put that statement on there not for new listeners, because why the fuck would they care, but for folks like me. And I, CJM, do not feel like Wilco made good on their end of the bargain. Wilco didn’t put their songs in car commercials to achieve a higher level of spirituality or expand their sonic range. They did it to make money, whether that is the checks from VW or new fans buying the music. There are good ways to promote yourself and bad ways, and in this instance, Wilco chose a bad way. Just because I love them doesn’t mean I am blind to that fact.

    I don’t think I’ve been clear on the fact that I do not resent their desire for more money, success and fans. I would love for Wilco to make all the money that a band like, say… Creed, has made. But that sort of success comes at a price, and I get worried about what the cost will be for Wilco. I am not saying they will be spoiled by this arrangement, only that the door has been wedged open and who knows what is going to come in and what’s going to leave.

    And I do fully believe the connection between an advertiser and an artist is bi-directional, whether it means to be or not, whether it’s good or bad, whether it is direct or subtle, whether it’s intended or a by-product. Like I just said, that door has been cracked. I know you’re mr marketing guy and all, and I’m no expert, but I’m not a dummy about this stuff either.

    oh, and one more thing, JR. You are just plain wrong when you say that this is a poorly thought out argument. It may be poorly expressed or maybe you just don’t understand, but I have thought about this subject relentlessly and in depth since I saw that first commercial. Hell, even before that, when I heard Royksopp in a geico commercial. I do not take my music lightly, and whenever something threatens my belief in it, I’m all over it. And while your opinion is just plain wrong, and you lost a few coolness points with The Road fiasco, I would still totally make out with you (were you single).

    In the end, I know Wilco can decide what to do with their music, but I can decide not to like it when they do.

  11. christa Post author

    And yes Marianne, you are on the list of acceptable Wilco fans. I’ve tried to get you to like them for a long time now, but my shouts of praise have fallen on deaf ears.

    Thank god for VW!

    also, I realized that I’ve been spelling VW wrong. I thought “volkswagon” looked vaguely wrong, but I just attributed it to my lazy habit of not using proper capitalization. It’s volkswagen. with an e. I’ve gone and corrected the mistakes in previous posts/comments.

  12. christa Post author

    I think you have the best argument in this discussion so far, Marianne. Your example with Naomi Wolf was a good one, although at least with her, she made a change due to spiritual reasons, and you can’t really say the same for Wilco. Unless you find VW bugs spiritual, I guess.

    But still, you’re right. They had reasons for what they did, and it had nothing at all to do with me, and I just need to stop feeling like I’ve been betrayed.

    It wasn’t personal. It doesn’t mean Wilco hates me and hates me baby. They aren’t trying to take away my wilco love. Sure, they drew their line past the point I thought they would have, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t still the same Wilco I’ve loved all these years.

    Well, okay maybe they aren’t the same Wilco I’ve loved all these years, and that’s okay. Any changes now don’t erase what once was.

    I can take comfort in that. Thanks, M. You’re my link to reality and calm, rational thought.

    But man, that’s rough stuff about Wolf. whew. How on earth did walk away so unaffected? I’d be crying in my shoes.

  13. christa Post author

    Oh and one more thing…then I’ll shut up. Until next time anyway…

    I am the kind of person that would have rather seen Wilco break up than be in a commercial.

    It’s kind of like with Arrested Development. I was heartbroken when it was cancelled, and then elated when I heard Showtime would pick them up and continue the greatest joy television has ever seen.

    But the creator decided that AD’s time was over, and to make that change would sacrifice too much of what the show embodied. So I was sad, but 100% cool with it. I would not have wanted to see that show lose its juice just to stay alive.

  14. Jonathan

    I am the kind of person that would have rather seen Wilco break up than be in a commercial.

    Wow… that’s just…. wow. …so then you’re saying you’re NOT a Wilco fan?

    And for the record, the part of your argument (re-read my comment for clarity) that is “poorly thought out” is the part where you say really childish things like “They don’t deserve to be part of it,” or “You want people watching Age of Love or fucking laguna beach thinking “hey wilco is cool!”???”

    Yes. Yes, I do. I want everyone on Earth saying “hey wilco is cool” and then I will have more people to talk about my favorite band with, and they will have more people buying their albums & they will be wealthier. Why do you want your favorite band to have to struggle? Tweedy makes a couple hundred grand a year from touring. That’s less than I make, and I have a fucking retirement plan. Nels Cline & John Stirrat and the rest make even less. They make nothing at all from the album sales.

    As for the better half of your argument, that by selling the rights to a song to VW they are tacitically endorsing VW, yes, I agree, to a point. Of course they wouldn’t sell the song to the Klan, or to be less rhetorically inflamed, to the Guliani Presidential campaign. However, you’ve got to see that there’s a huge gulf between tolerating a company to the point where you’ll let them pay you a ton of money for the privilege of promoting your album and actually going out and endorsing something. They didn’t write in mentions of VW in their songs or put VW sponsorship on the album art. They allowed a wealthy organization to play their music to a bunch of new people who had never heard their music before, which is fucking awesome, and they got paid a bunch of money in order to do it.

    We could argue this point back and forth all day, but I’ll let it drop here. However, I will say, it takes a large dose of chutzpah (and no small lack of self-awareness) to post in one comment something so judgmental and harsh about a class of people you’ve never met as “Those birds don’t know the first thing about the beauty and joy contained in wilco’s music and they never ever will,” and then follow it up with “a comment like that shows me how little the people who don’t know me really don’t know me.”

  15. christa Post author

    you’re right jonathan. There is never going to be any agreement here. All these words are making my head hurt, too. So I will let this drop as well, after just a few more words. Sorry Tiffany.

    To say that Wilco is a “struggling” band is laughable. They ARE successful and they make money from their music, good money, money that plenty of people in this world would love to have. I am not fretting in my bed at night, worrying over Wilco’s financial status.

    I will never agree to the notion that money is the ultimate measure of success. There is more to life, more to art, more to fulfillment, than being wealthy.

    If someone is unable to live comfortably on a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, well, boo effing hoo for them. You aren’t getting my sympathy.

    We could sit here and make an endless list of musicians who don’t make enough money. But Wilco, while perhaps deserving of more money, is 100% not the definition of struggling.

    I will agree with you on one thing: they allowed a wealthy organization to play their music to a bunch of new people who had never heard their music before and they got paid a bunch of money in order to do it.

  16. DG

    Kia makes good cars for the money…
    I drive a chevy Impala.
    Yes Jonathon we know you drive a Prius.
    Still got that old Plymouth Morgan??

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